Intro:
My business partner sends out emails requesting bloggers and website owners to trade links with our sites, which will boost both sites’ google rankings. This woman apparently got such a request, and responded to us through the contact form at sharethedamnroad.com
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dani sent a message using the contact form at
http://www.sharethedamnroad.com/contact.
i received a request for a link exchange, but as i don’t see any women’s
products on your site i’m not inclined to promote you for free! I appreciate the sentiment behind your products, but your (and US cycling’s in general) bias in favor of the male gender is sexist and arrogant. Most women are not shaped like small men and deserve and want products just for them! If you choose not to offer such things, i can only assume you do not care about women’s needs and that your company exists only for profit, without true concern for cyclists.
Thanks but no thanks.
-Dani
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Dani,
Club cut jerseys are cut to be gender neutral, and our sizing is available for women. Every jersey on the site (unless we’re out of stock), has a full range of women’s sizes, even if the pictures don’t show it. If you click the drop-down size menu, you’d see it there. Thanks for calling us sexist and arrogant, though.
-Phil
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size small men club cut might fit a size large woman… maybe a medium. What about the rest of women? if you aren’t biased, where are the other sizes? (We have all sizes available) why are all the photos of male mannequins? why should a woman have to search, only to find you don’t carry anything that will fit her? How much men’s stuff do you think you’d sell if all the pictures were of female mannequins? and sized xxs, xs, s, and m ? Dare you to show this to a dedicated female roadie of your choice. every female cyclist knows US cycling is totally biased.
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Dani,
You accused us of not selling women’s sizes because you didn’t spend the 5 seconds to check. Now that you see you were wrong on that, you’ve conveniently changed your argument. If we had photos of a female mannequin wearing the same designs we have for men, it would make it harder to find our better sellers, the front page would be cluttered, and we’d have redundant-looking images of the same jersey on each page.
Let me explain something to you. We’re trying to survive as a business. When you’re starting up, there’s only so much money you can spent on inventory, mannequins, and photography, and only so much you can lose each month on unsold goods. The “bias” in women’s cycling isn’t sexism, it’s economics. It comes from the fact that fewer women ride bikes, and fewer women spend money on cycling. If our women’s jerseys sold more often, believe me, we’d feature them more prominently. Same goes in every bike shop, which stock fewer women’s bikes, based on market research and experience of their customers. This is not my personal opinion, it’s market research. If we spent money on equal women’s inventory, we would lose money, and we wouldn’t exist anymore. It’s nothing anti-women or personal, just sound business decisions. It’s the same reason that 75% of the stores and floor space at the mall is dedicated to women’s clothing: it’s not anti-male clothing bias, it’s just that men don’t buy as much clothing. You don’t see me writing angry, absurd, and accusatory messages to the owner of Abercrombie.
And by the way, I also sell custom clothing to cycling clubs. The vast majority of women cyclists prefer the fit of a men’s cut jersey.
-Phil
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perhaps if women’s cycling was promoted more… more women would ride, buy bikes, jerseys etc.
i haven’t changed my argument. my logic is not flawed. economics is! economics forces you to use male mannequins? your business exists to profit from men- is run by men, for men- but women have money too.
75% of mall stores and floor space is women’s clothing? i don’t shop at malls, and you don’t cite where you got that figure from, but that seems like an awful lot of clothes and last time i checked malls also had furniture stores, restaurants, movie theatres, music stores, and refrigerators and washing machines and tools and hardware and sporting goods too.
if men don’t shop at the mall, much, where do they buy their clothes? oh wait- i bet they make their mommies or wifeys buy it for them! at the mall! because men can’t dress themselves! ha, now who’s biased?
how would men feel if they looked at a site to see only women’s clothes? (that happens to me all the time, and I never give it a second thought) they wouldn’t “spend 5 seconds to check”- they’d think it was only for women and move on!
i’m going to make my own clothes and they will be so much better than your clothes….
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Dani,
Economics is flawed? Does 1+1=2, or do you disagree with that for some vague moral principles, as well?
You should start a clothing company, with the goal of selling things that you think are nice but lack a reasonable market demand. I hope you have better luck with that than I expect you have in your social and love life. You’re easily one of the most irrational and obnoxious people I’ve ever had the misfortune to talk to. Get back in touch with me when you open your store. We can trade a link.
-Phil